Earlier today, I posted an update about the Great Kingdom D&D Documentary Kickstarter, along with an update on all my outstanding Kickstarters.
The first documentary to fund on Kickstarter was Dungeons & Dragons A Documantary. They also have a Facebook page, but it hasn’t been updated since June.
I missed backing this one, and their KS page is still active. However, their last backer update is from January. They do have some active comments. A comment from November 9, 2016 said, “I think it was said early that, at least with The Great Kingdom, the money is in escrow and if they lose all the backers get that money back, since the money wasn’t transferred from KS to the defendants.”
That is good news, and if true, makes me wonder why the only response to my inquiries didn’t get that answer.
My only concern, is that the credit card I used is expired, and the account number changed. How will KS get the money to me?
MY DESIRE
I don’t care what conflicts these people had amongst themselves. Grow up and make a movie so we get it.
I plan to get my money back somehow. When I do, I will add it to the RPG History Project by Pat Kilbane. Here’s the article I wrote on Multiverse. I’ve also written about it on this blog here, and here. Fair warning, I like what Pat has done, and will be the biggest cheerleader I can for his efforts. If he gets enough support to speed the process, he could deliver his documentary before the courts settle the dispute between the others.
There is also the Eye of the Beholder: The Art of Dungeons & Dragons. I did not find a Kicstarter for this. I assume they have all the financial backing they need, as I have not seen any mention of crowdfunding for them. I don’t see any mention of a release date.
And the Secrets of Blackmoor movie project. Also on Facebook. I assume they also have all the financial backing they need, as I have not seen any mention of crowdfunding for them. I don’t see any mention of a release date.
THE EMAIL CHAIN
On October 1st, I sent the following email to the Great Kingdom people. It took a while to find a way to contact them. When Kickstarter pulls things down, the only way to contact the creator is through the KS messaging system. I did try sending messages via Kickstarter, but never got an answer.
I don’t remember what google searches I had to use to find the movie’s website. It was there that I found their email address. Since it is so hard to find a way to contact them, I don’t feel that I need to obscure their email address. This will avoid me fielding all the emails asking how to contact them.
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To Whom It May Concern,
I sent a message via Kickstarter asking about a refund on October 1, 2017 and have had no response.
I found this email via the internet archive in an attempt to contact you.
I pledged $50.00 and would like my money back ASAP.
Please either refund my money or deliver my pledged reward as indicated in the email below that I received when the project funded and I was charged.
If you have been barred by the court from issuing refunds, then please communicate this fact, with a link to the court ruling.
If you have been barred by the court from communicating with your backers, then please communicate this fact, with a link to the court ruling.
[My Signature Text.]
—– Forwarded Message —–
From: Kickstarter <no-reply@kickstarter.com>
To: Me
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 11:30 PM
Subject: Thanks to you, The Great Kingdom by The Great Kingdom has been successfully funded!
Congratulations!
Thanks to you and 890 other backers, The Great Kingdom has been successfully funded. We will now charge your credit card.
Pledge Summary
Amount pledged: $50.00 USD
Reward: DVD/BluRay + Pre-Release HD Download – You get the Digital Download before everyone else does, plus you get something you can treasure and keep. Think of it as an heirloom to give to your descendants. That is unless DVD/Blu-Ray become obsolete…which will probably never happen. And to sweeten the deal, your name will be listed on our website under the heading “Even More Awesomer People That Helped Get This Movie Made”. $15 extra for International Shipping. (Sorry, International People…we wish it was less expensive).
Estimated delivery: Jul 2015
Shipping:
When your reward is ready, The Great Kingdom will send you a survey via email to request any info needed to deliver your reward (mailing address, T-shirt size, etc).
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I had to send another email before I got a response:
To Whom It May Concern,
I sent a message via Kickstarter asking about a refund on October 1, 2017 and have had no response.
I found this email via the internet archive in an attempt to contact you.
I pledged $50.00 and would like my money back ASAP.
Please either refund my money or deliver my pledged reward as indicated in the email below that I received when the project funded and I was charged.
If you have been barred by the court from issuing refunds, then please communicate this fact, with a link to the court ruling.
If you have been barred by the court from communicating with your backers, then please communicate this fact, with a link to the court ruling.
[My Signature Text.]
This is he response I got back from Andrew Pascal:
FROM: TheMostEpicGame <themostepicgame@gmail.com>
apologies for the delay in responding. we had no intention of cutting off communication with our backers. we are still unfortunately in the middle of fighting the legal case brought against us. until we can move forward, the sever [sic] legal restrictions prevent us from being able to work on the project at all. [Emphasis mine: This does NOT answer my question about refunds and a court ruling preventing them.]
our adversaries in the lawsuit are relentless in their willingness to keep production of THE GREAT KINGDOM mired in a legal battle that has cost both sides extensive money and effort, which could have been put to finishing both films by now. we were and have been hoping for a swift end to the legal issues, but there does not seem to be any hope in that. we feel strongly about our case and will defend ourselves accordingly.
unfortunately, the people who are affected by this are our backers like yourselves. we want nothing more than to finish this film and send to everyone what we owe through the kickstarter campaign. once these issues are resolved, we are eagerly looking forward to finishing THE GREAT KINGDOM. when that may happen is unfortunately not up to us.
if there are unseen forces that prevent us from completing the film, we will absolutely refund everyone’s money. unfortunately, for now, there’s not much to do other than to keep the faith. we want to finish this movie as much as you guys want to see it. hopefully we will see a resolution to the legal issues soon. [Emphasis mine: No refunds even if you want one….]
thank you for reaching out.
– andrew pascal
So there it is, a nebulous answer that things will happen after the legal issues are settled. But we KNOW that already. If the money is in escrow and we’ll get it back, then just SAY that. It shouldn’t be that hard to get a clear answer that avoids admissions of guilt or going against a court order.
If you want to make a movie, then please do. You have my permission and that of hundreds, if not thousands of D&D fans.